Pilatus PC-12 Crash Mesquite Texas on 23 April 2020
Pilatus PC-12 Crash Mesquite Texas on 23 April 2020
Detailed look at what happened and what’s inside the Pilatus design and Pilot Operating Handbook.
LINKS:
VASAviation: (tell Victor Blancolirio sent ya!)
PC-12 Stalls Factory Demo:
AV Web PC-12 Review:
NBC 5 Dallas:
One Hospitalized After Plane Crashes, Catches Fire Near Mesquite Metro Airport
PC-12 POH (outdated)
https://pilatus-aircraft.com/data/tech_pub/PIM%2002211%20R15_.pdf
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Why no pan pan pan, let alone mayday? He has only 1/2 engine or less…
These swiss made planes are as fine a a swiss watch.
You a credit to your profession, thank you.
Beta pilot.
05:03 Shy and Mild banking turnback, then trying to compensate with lots of rudder and of course, stalled it. Mild maneuvering Maggot payed the price of avoiding to know efficient Turnbacks. When you need to turn, bank at least 30 bank right there, not 15 degree bank and then due overshoot, pushed the inside rudder that will stall it.
Many student pilot errors. Student pilot errors going away from airport he could land, then stalling with a rudder only turnback after a 360 to lose the alt he needed anyway. Chain of student pilot errors..
is the ground ok??
Why didn’t ATC advise this pilot the best place to la vise this pilot he should land at the best possible air field
I hope, I certainly hope, this has nothing to do with liability .? ,,,, . ……. ,,,, I certainly hope the threat of death by manner describe d by these mnj manuscr8ibers
Emergency? Airport! Instructions say airport and it’s an emergency. I’ll take a taxiway or any grass. Don’t ask me to dance around to lineup on a runway.
If you ever have an engine issue, land right away.
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Good video and good comments.
Gas Generator RPM?
The manual said practical is not recommended to skip the nearest airport and possible allows to find a suitable airport
After watching so many blancolirio videos I now feel I can fly any aircraft………..
into the ground! Oh wait…….into terrain. Uncontrolled flight into terrain, that is what I’m qualified for.
My favorite SantaBarbara local celebrity!
Flying older turbine helos with manual fuel systems and no fadec. I’ve lost governors and it’s not a real big deal manually controlling fuel. These manuals make it seem far harder than it is. You can do it in your sleep. My brain is still wired for analog fuel systems even though I fly mostly fadec aircraft except an old md500. But I was brought up on that. It was 2008 before I got in a fadec aircraft and thought I died and went to heaven.
Interstage Turbine Temp.
I love the fact you said we weren’t here to place blame or be critical of rjw pilot tjwn you Proceed to do so while laughing about it. Mean what you say and say what you mean
I wondered if this pilot went back to flying!
Bone head move.
Its heartbreaking to see my dream plane like this hope the pilot is safe
As a former pilot…. I pursued another career….my rusty memory regarding engine failures or engine problems returned immediately. Declare the emergency after you’ve gotten the aircraft stabilized for bes glide trim it so that you buy yourself time to try to diagnose the problem. And declare the emergency. Pan pan pan. Get the towers attention onto you to help you out….. hit nearest on the GPS…. direct…. Should already have an alternate airport at all times during all aspects of flight you should know where the nearest airport is how far it is whether you can actually get there with full idle…. Always always always have an alternate have an out. Situational awareness. then he should have immediately asked for vectors direct to the nearest airport don’t even think about going to your destination 30 miles away. DFW is 30 mi away and he considered at 6,000 ft I believe trying to achieve this with two alternate airports within minutes. You should have had that aircraft down the ground at one of those airports in minutes not doing a 360 turn the last minute losing sight of the air port with gear down and no power. Retractable and no power doesn’t matter if it’s a turboprop or a conventional you never put the gear down until you are on final and you know you can make the runway and it’s gear down and get down. There was a shopping list of errors that were committed the chain of events that led to the crash could have been broken so many times and could have had that aircraft down at the nearest airport safely. Single pilot turbine emergency when you’re at 5,000 ft focus on getting the aircraft on final approach to your nearest airport and get the thing down. If you wreck the engine in the process it can be replaced but you don’t want to die trying to save the aircraft and get it over to your destination maybe because you have get there itis or perhaps job pressure. Maybe you don’t want to have to call the boss from a different airport and tell him you’ve got a problem Any abnormal engine operation is a immediate signal to land as soon as possible. I’m just glad he survived and probably learned a very hard lesson from this and I’m sorry to say probably lost his job too. Because an inexperienced pilot should not be piloting pc-12 so therefore he probably had some experience maybe or maybe not atpl but did not utilize this experience to execute good PDM
Hind site is always 2020.. maybe a good lesson for us all.. glad he made it
I never knew about EAS. I’ll add that to my list (traffic lights, interstate highways, rural electrification, rural telecomm, ATC, etc.) of things to point to myopic Ever-Trumpers who think there’s no socialism in the US.
You may be pro- or anti- government programs; that’s your prerogative. Just don’t be ignernt! Stupidity is not a valid point of view.
Honestly not to be mean but I don’t excuse this type of airmanship. Why? Well he’s flying a plane over innocent humans and probably transporting passengers I assume. It’s not excusable to not know the basics of a turbine aircraft. Being right by an airport after he was saying I’m losing my engine and then says he’ll with it I’ll fly on. That’s common sense, and you are roughing people at risk on the ground in your path. My parents taught me and I’ve taught my kids. As soon as you get have a problem or suspect something is wrong you have to think about the innocent people beneath you. You could potentially crash into. This is a typical pilot it’s all about him. He just said he was losing his engine then says he will fly back into a populated area. That’s not morally right much less zero common sense in that decision making. My dad had a fellow pilot astronaut at NASA come up with the saying. “No matter how bad the problem is, you can always make it worse!” this is exactly what he meant. They actually call it hoots law.
love your intro music
Glide for a clean pc-12 with a feathered prop is 700-800 VVI. Gear down adds about 300 fpm… the decent rate he has throughout the video makes me wonder if her ever got the prop feathered. Taking the time to practice with the MOR lever in the airplane is important. Set yourself up at 5000A and pull the PCL to idle. Then slowly work the MOR lever up watching for ITT rise. Once ITT rise is noted slowly us the MOR lever to control your TQ. You won’t get the rapid roll back in NG at low altitudes like you would expect.
Also flight safety needs to teach better energy management for forced landings. Work on not stretching a glide and maintaining AOA while setting up for a spiral down. Their man focus is on straight ins and turn backs. They have seen the way military guys have flown ELPs hundreds of times in their Sims… write down the parameters, practice it and spread the word.
So, Many, BAD decisions…. By a professional pilot.
He should have took the first chance to put the plane down . Engine problems I’m landing ASAP .
$10K mistake – training. $100K mistake – engine. $2M mistake – airplane.
I have over 10,000 hours in a VW golf gti, 0 in an aircraft but this stuff fascinates me. Great content sir.
Why on Earth would he put the landing gear down that far out? He was scared he might forget. He might have made it had he not put the gear down until he was on final ready to put her down. Hope he gets better.
I’m no pilot (just a flight simmer), but I can see the value in practicing stuff like MORs in a risk free environment like a flight sim. I paid for a PC-12 in Xplane 11 a while back and believe the quality is sufficient to allow practice of procedures that can’t safely be done in real life.
You don’t look like a typical "Juan" to me.
You look more like a
"Juan Rambo"… Great job!
Monday morning QBs in this thread just ruin it.
Hey are you Cuban? I love seeing Latino pilots
Those airplanes are fool proof. You have to be one major burnout to fail to land a plane that can do so even if the engine s malfunctions.
Ng is a tachometer – Torque is a better analogue to power.
DUDE ! POOR DECISIONS !
This is what happens to people who’s brains are on drugs.
And the engines are such high quality that that is not even likely to happen.
Transcription might be wrong. More than likely pumps, not props.
Love this format, love the depth you’re sharing
So being a ferry flight, sans pax, was the pilot (mechanic?) perhaps not ATP rated? Certainly didn’t function like one… sounded like someone worried "the boss" was going to can him if he had to send a repair crew out to some outlying GA airport, aka "get back to homebase at all costs…" smh…
As a 25 year airline veteran, I’m loathe to monday-morning quarterback this pilot’s actions, but his choices cry out for critical analysis. A number of bad decisions here. It’s the ultimate truth that once an engine has trouble, the insurance company owns from that point, and your job is to get on the ground and off the airplane as quickly as possible. This pilot made 2 critical, nearly fatal mistakes. Having been PIC in two significant mechanical issues on transport cat turbojets, my ONLY concern was for getting our passengers safely on the ground as quickly as possible. Machines fail on their own schedule. Our schedules simply do not matter, and trying to cajole a sick airplane to meet our needs, instead of doing everything possible to meet the emergency is a fool’s errand.
In this instance, the Pilatus POH says "Land As Soon As Possible." Not "nurse the aircraft to a more convenient distant runway, bypassing several opportunities to land safely."
I think I speak for most of us here, I wish I was a Pilatus guy 😭
Maybe I’m selfish … but I’m not interested in giving up any altitude until I absolutely need to scrub off altitude.
I have a rule in an emergency (if some control maintained)… “I DONT DO BASE LEGS” what is this nonsense about “base leg” if you have an emergency?.. at low altitude, NEVER
What i do is try to align with the runway from as far as I am in unperceptive angles, small turns, if at 90 degrees from the airport I fly out of it and once at a descrete distance fly in a mild S curve at decent speed until aligned in final. So many accidents because planes need to do steep turns at low altitude in a troubled plane!
You tell em Mr.Pete!
Would have made it to the 360 and the head wind would have helped avoid the stall. Interesting that they are only paying pilots 2x what a McDonalds burger flipper makes. Glad he lived through his mistakes.